DID has shown me very tangibly the ways people change significantly internally and externally though, as this is no longer the case and is not a problem nor a source of worry for us now. You can read that article by clicking here. At first it was me and them. When someone asks you to describe who you are as a person, you might feel at a loss for what to say. (Mean MID score=49.6/ mini-MID score= 37.9/ I have DID scale= 50/ I have parts scale= 68.6/ Mean amnesia score 27.1/ Amnesia symptoms= 23 of 31/ Severe dissociation= 147 of 168/ Dissociative symptoms= 23 of 23) DDNOS passed in conversation a few times- its possible I may have initiated it. I post information, resources, positivity, recovery, and thoughts on dissociation and trauma recovery. But for us, we have a few different internal feels when switching. That includes what causes it, factors that influence its presentation, how alters are created, how switching works, all the current science behind this stuff, etc. All of this therefore begs the question of whether or not it is worth getting a diagnosis, and whether a differential diagnosis between DID and OSDD has any value. I think there is some dissociation there. The 24vdc outputs . Someone might have told you that you did or said something that you dont recall. Traumagenic flag by Grey Skies Traumagenic flag by xenic-nd These systems do not experience clinically significant amounts of amnesia, more commonly having emotional amnesia. Consensual Switches Consensual switching is when two or more Parts mostly agree before a switch occurs. Many people therefore see DID and OSDD as appearing on a spectrum, and prefer to conflate the two conditions so that DID/OSDD represents a range of dissociative experiences with more or less amnesia and greater or less elaboration and distinctive identity states or parts of the personality. I mentioned my latest CPTSD hijack after having a really good, wholistic month (I went on a road trip to help someone else and found the trip was incredibly healing for me too; I felt nearly human and almost whole for the first time in my life, and then came triggering news and the crash of my good month. There are 4 types of OSDD, but the most common is OSDD-1 which is similar to DID. In OSDD-1, severe childhood trauma causes different identities, known as alternate states of consciousness (alters) to form. Non-switching systems, or partial DID as it's called in the ICD, are systems who have an alter always remain in front, and other alters can "only" exert passive influence and co-fronting. There might be alters who struggle to communicate with other alters or refuse to do so. Continued use of the website indicates agreement with this policy. Yes, you are real. Wait, is whole possible now? But mostly the books above ^. We went from being able to communicate internally very clearly but with strong amnesia walls and difficulty distinguishing switches happening between neutral and non-violent alters (and no switches happening for a while or ever for some alters), to having all but two of us go dormant and it just being a daily head-to-head assault of violence and abuse, to taking anti-psychosis which created communication barriers in the system but obviously didn't "cure us", to years later being confronted by the disorder again and seeing alters come back from dormancy changed or fused, to finally working together coherently, to now 6 of us in a happy system striving to make a life worth having fought for. You might find that sometimes you cant remember important information about yourself or about those closest to you. This was a wonderful read that we in our system very much appreciated. You might feel like you are invisible, two-dimensional, or a robot. If you have alters, you've had them since childhood; systems only form due to severe repeated childhood trauma before age 9. yeah, but that doesn't mean they always differentiate early-in-life. Where is my childhood? You might have difficulty piecing together a coherent timeline of your life. Other specified dissociative disorder ( OSDD) is a mental health diagnosis for pathological dissociation that matches the DSM-5 criteria for a dissociative disorder, but does not fit the full criteria for any of the specifically identified subtypes, which include dissociative identity disorder, dissociative amnesia, and He uses cups and water to help make this complicated topic a lot easier to understand! For those with OSDD-1a, this is due to a lack of two or more sufficiently differentiated alters, and for those with OSDD-1b, this is due to a lack of amnesia between alters. I really wonder if this is OSDD but I guess labels dont matter as much anymore once it is not much of a problem any longer. Furthermore, these are common but not required; a person does not need to experience all of these things to have DID/OSDD. And that gives rise to the difficulties that many people with OSDD have reported, of feeling that they dont belong anywhere. . Sometimes might you feel like you are watching yourself, as if you are having an out of body experience. Finally, triggered switches are not desired by any of the alters involved and occur when a stimulus has been registered that forces out an alter who can better handle it. Were not doctors or clinicians and our nonprofit, our work, and this website in no way provide medical advice, nor does it replace therapy or medication in other ways. I now understand these are fragmented parts of me , they hold parts of my development at different ages and they have different emotions . Alters who act out like this are deeply traumatized, are confused, feel unheard, etc. This is a complex area of debate, because as Spiegel et al, in their paper Dissociative Disorders in DSM-5 (2011, p.839), point out: According to Kluft and Dell, only 15% of dissociative identity disorder cases regularly manifest easily observable alternate identities during diagnostic interviews. Others might tell you that you sometimes act very differently, almost like different people. You might hear voices, such as voices arguing or commenting on your actions. Caring was beyond me, only existing moment to moment, hoping not to be hurt anymore, drifting deeper into insanity. Because I only struggle to remember when recollecting, and there is plenty of downtime between events in my brain that I just dont remember at all, and my recollection is out of order. However I still notice that I switch moods, the general moods that I switch between (which everyone does, of course) are anger, fear, happiness, euphoria and sadness, and depending on how unsafe I feel, they become more like stereotypes. Better suicide than being whole. A mere speck floating in an ocean of pain, sinking deeper and deeper into the waters, only a bare existence was possible. The primary symptom of dissociative disorders, of course, is dissociation. I appreciate knowing that the treatments are pretty much the same and a hit or miss either way. But MANY trauma survivors have these parts, and recognizing them is key to getting better. Sometimes this may result in an unsafe or distressing situation. So what is the solution? I learned an overwhelming amount about the details of what happens between genetics and environment to create the dissociative symptoms and how it relates to the spectrum; so much makes sense to my situation and I learned about eco therapy, and a few of the suggestions I have not tried yet! Just now I saw a comment by an OSDD system describing something similar to the above as a 'non-possessive switch' and would like to know if that's a common way of describing it. This diagnosis was known as dissociative disorder not otherwise specified (DDNOS) before the DSM-5. It may be important for some people with OSDD to distinguish their experience from that of people with dissociative identity disorder and it would be good for people in this category to come forwards and write about their experience to help people, clinicians in particular, understand the unique characteristics of life with OSDD. 1a systems have loss of memory between system members, but their members are not significantly distinct from each other, while 1b systems have members who are distinct from each other, but dont have memory loss between members. Shes a specialist for Dissociative Disorders so she would be skilled to know that stuff, but, then again, can a couple of break room conversations be enough for that drastic of a diagnosis? However, this is often little comfort to people with OSDD, as I shall discuss later. The therapist in the zoom group asked a few probing questions; she concluded I had full blown DID, not DDNOS as I had believed. I go by he/them pronouns. Thank you for investing the time to read this article. My final tip is to know that things will be okay. The same cannot be said for OSDD. the thing is, they can't front, like, ever. I too was committed to a psychosis ward and schizophrenia was ruled out. well, its both. A common thought we had at the time was We dont black out or lose time, so surely we arent switching, which means this must be fake, which was incorrect for many reasons. It works by converting the standard direct current supply, usually 24 volts, into two pulsed and out-of-phase signals. Previously called MPD (Multiple Personality Disorder), this disorder is categorized by the action of switching . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. We wanted to help make sysboxes you don't usually see, especially with most system user box blogs run by endos.our main is @friends-call-me-snow-miser (if we reply to comments) and our system blog is @fromthewondersystem mod wonder Switching (of any type), and the existence of alters (parts of different gender, age, temperament, etc) ONLY occurs in OSDD/DID. The belief that DID is iatrogenic rather than trauma-based. Press J to jump to the feed. Sandra in our system has described it as I dont stop fronting, but who that I is shifts. We have touched on two major differences already less elaboration or switching to distinct parts, and less amnesia. Switching refers to one alter taking control of the body, being given control by another alter, or gaining prominence over another alter. It does so much for you, and you deserve to have a break! When I am all the way at the end of the scale I experience significant dissociation but never full amnesia. The temptation might be to describe it in terms of what it is lacking Its sort of DID except not quite or Its like PTSD but with more dissociation. I wonder how many people with OSDD therefore feel short-changed, as if somehow they are not deemed worthy of a proper condition, only a residual one, which is terribly unfair. We are becoming stronger and one day may be whole. Yes, its very common! How would you define separate sense of self? Certainly where private therapy is being sought and there is no need for a definitive statement on some official piece of paper or medical record, this may be the preferable option for a large number of people. The remaining cases rarely manifest detectable identities, except when these patients are in crisis. There are as many Plural experiences, as there are Plurals. In a moment, my interests, name, vocal inflections, gender- change. its not unheard of for a host to think theyre the only one to ever front when in reality they might actually front less than the others, just because they dont remember not fronting. It was easily one of the strangest experiences I've had in the now. And what about instances of amnesia about amnesia how do you know that you have amnesia for something if youve forgotten that it happened in the first place?! This seems to me to be a real issue that again the DSM criteria do not sufficiently address. so i guess i don't really have the space to care about their reasons for their behavior when i'm constantly feeling its consequences. I also struggle to name my alters because all together we make up who I am and none of them were ever acknowledged by the world, and to a point even myself, for so long. There might be times when watching your surroundings seems no realer than watching a movie. However, as some systems do only use the term trigger to refer to negative stimuli that causes a dissociative or posttraumatic reaction, care should be taken in using the term positively. We often simply say we are a dissociative system and nothing more, because our alters are fully fledged and individual (to the extent we recognize as such), but experience hardly any amnesia aside from large portions of childhood. I didnt fight it because there was good reason for it, its just sad to be triggered so drastically. While this disorder is hard to live with, we often lead fulfilling lives. Passive influence can be described as intrusions from alters that are not currently prominent in the mind or using the body. Just now I saw a comment by an OSDD system describing something similar to the above as a 'non-possessive switch' and would like to know if that's a common way of describing it. Some people with OSDD may prefer the company of people with dissociative identity disorder who keep their parts as much as possible in the background in public situations, but still the lack of distinct parts can be felt to be in some way as if they are getting it wrong. it's when "you" just sort of "become" someone else, but you still feel like yourself. I agree DID in its entirety gets more attention as complete fragmentation caused by trauma . like, don't get me wrong, i get where you're trying to come from, but understanding the reasons for their abuse isn't really something i get the chance to center when i have no cognitive or emotional space to process their actions. How can you distinguish this from modes in BPD? You might sometimes experience heightened or muted visual/auditory distortions with no medical cause, such as blurry vision, muffled sounds, or tunnel vision. 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